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Sorry I'm not done talking about zines yet
Speaking of the "zines should be indie and subversive" conversation, this tweet just blew up...
https://twitter.com/rogvaettr/status/1465335292035010566
Since there's no reason to have something like this in your algorithm, I'm going to quote the tweet here:
Just saw someone talk about a zine with a 'do not apply if you've ever created NSFW art' rule, and I want you to know that you people have completely appropriated and pissed on what zines are supposed to be, which is 1000% subversive, transformative, makes-society-flinch shit.
I know from inside information (that came to me in a very roundabout way via the con programming server of an anime convention) that what actually happened was this: An artist applied with a portfolio comprised entirely of explicit cp. I saw some of the images, which are beyond debate and extremely disturbing. When it became clear that some of the artist's friends were planning on sending similar portfolios, the mods made an announcement that they wouldn't be considering portfolios that included nsfw material. Which is fair, I think.
Anyway, I think people are forgetting that oldschool punk zines were and continue to be extremely exclusive. In fact, a lot of famous punk and ska songs from the 1990s are complaints about people being excluded from the scene because they're "not punk enough." Speaking from personal experience, just last year the South Street Art Mart in Philadelphia declined to stock my "transformative, makes-society-flinch" queer horror zines for basically the same reason. (Heaven forbid your zine covers are printed with full bleed lol.)
My own view of the matter is that, if you run a zine, you can include or exclude anyone you want. Like, it's your zine. If someone doesn't like it they can make their own zine. Anyone can make a zine. That's what's so nice about the medium honestly.
https://twitter.com/rogvaettr/status/1465335292035010566
Since there's no reason to have something like this in your algorithm, I'm going to quote the tweet here:
Just saw someone talk about a zine with a 'do not apply if you've ever created NSFW art' rule, and I want you to know that you people have completely appropriated and pissed on what zines are supposed to be, which is 1000% subversive, transformative, makes-society-flinch shit.
I know from inside information (that came to me in a very roundabout way via the con programming server of an anime convention) that what actually happened was this: An artist applied with a portfolio comprised entirely of explicit cp. I saw some of the images, which are beyond debate and extremely disturbing. When it became clear that some of the artist's friends were planning on sending similar portfolios, the mods made an announcement that they wouldn't be considering portfolios that included nsfw material. Which is fair, I think.
Anyway, I think people are forgetting that oldschool punk zines were and continue to be extremely exclusive. In fact, a lot of famous punk and ska songs from the 1990s are complaints about people being excluded from the scene because they're "not punk enough." Speaking from personal experience, just last year the South Street Art Mart in Philadelphia declined to stock my "transformative, makes-society-flinch" queer horror zines for basically the same reason. (Heaven forbid your zine covers are printed with full bleed lol.)
My own view of the matter is that, if you run a zine, you can include or exclude anyone you want. Like, it's your zine. If someone doesn't like it they can make their own zine. Anyone can make a zine. That's what's so nice about the medium honestly.